MyDD: Still Carrying the Load

Ellen O. Tauscher (CA-10) decided to do a preemptive counterattack against the left-wing of the Democratic Party the week before the elections. Maybe she is trying to reassure Boeing, Wal-Mart, and Pfizer that the new wave of Democrats will be every bit the lap-dogs of their industries that Tom DeLay and the K Street project have been. Maybe she is just a stupid person. But we don't need this fight right now. Here Is what she said.

Representative Ellen O. Tauscher of California, a co-chairwoman of the 47-member New Democrat Coalition, said that 27 of the top 40 contested House seats were being pursued by Democrats who have pledged to become members of the group, which says its chief issues are national security and fiscal responsibility.

"I think there's tremendous agreement and awareness that getting the majority and running over the left cliff is what our Republican opponents would dearly love," Ms. Tauscher said, adding that this was something "we've got to fight."

That set Matt Stoller off here. And then Chris Bowers went off here and here.

They are not so much overreacting as they are stepping on this week's message. I am reminded of a Buddhist aphorism. A young monk and an old monk come to a stream where an attractive young lady is crying. Her leg has been badly injured and she cannot forge across the stream. The young monk says that they are prohibited from touching a woman and that he is sorry but they cannot help her. The old monk says, "Get on my back", and helps her across the stream. After the woman goes on her way, the young monk is outraged and asks the old monk how he could have done such a thing. The old monk turns to the young monk and says, "I have already put her down and you are still carrying her."

That's how I feel about Stoller and Bowers' seemingly sudden outrage at the DLC'ers of the Democratic Party. We always knew that winning a majority in Congress was only the first step in a much longer process. We knew that Rahm Emanuel and Chuck Schumer were recruiting moderates, hawks, and social conservatives and stifling primaries. Chris and I were both early supporters of Chuck Pennacchio's protest run for Pennsylvania Senate. We accepted the outcome of that primary and focused our efforts elsewhere, in rebuilding the Pennsylvania party from the ground up.

For long-time readers of this blog, it should come as no surprise that I feel this way. While we have a lot of members, including but not limited to the Liberal Street Fighter crew, that are utterly disenchanted with the Democratic Party, I have argued that we can and will change the party over time. I have argued that a victory this fall will be a boon for progressives beyond what most people probably expect. For example, I have written about the Black Revolution in the House should we take control. I have written about the impact on judicial candidates in Democratic Senate. I've written about why I have faith in Speaker Pelosi. I wrote about how surprisingly progressive a Democratic House will be. And I wrote a piece on why the DLC will not be emboldened by a takeover of the house.

In other words, I have taken it as a given that the party is going to be waging an intramural struggle after these elections. I have been mostly concerned with demonstrating confidence and optimism in the face of determined attacks from my left about the futility of progress within the two-party system. But, I have never denied that there are many reasons to be pessimistic and despairing. So, it almost seems like I'm watching Casablanca and Bowers and Stoller are "shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!" Of course there is rot in the heart of our party. What do you think the whole Lieberman fight is about? One man? Or is it about Democrats like Jane Harman, James Woolsey, Tom Carper, Marty Peretz, and the rest of the crew that labors for ever bigger military budgets and ever more interventions in the Middle East?

This is a two-party system, and the powers-that-be own considerable parts of both parties. Together they have failed us in the post-9/11 world. Both sides need to be purged. But that is not what this week is about. This week is about the first major step in the process. It is not the time for purity tests.

Several years ago there was a fire in girl's school in Saudi Arabia. Many of them burned to death when the religious police forbade people to rescue girls that were not modestly dressed. Well, our country is on fire. We knew that. It isn't any great surprise that a considerable part of the Democratic Party is both partly responsible for setting it ablaze and afraid of the consequences of the resulting structural damage. Will their house, built on raw expressions of unilateral power and aggressive empire, continue to stand? Are we going to go put out the fire, or stand around asking if the victims deserve to be rescued?

There are reactionary forces in American politics. This has been the case forever. It was true in 1933, when right-wingers attempted to overthrow FDR in the business plot. It was true in the late 40's and early 50's when the second red scare was launched. It was true when Kennedy and LBJ felt obligated to intervene in Cuba and Vietnam. It was true when Nixon ruled the roost, and when Gerald Ford launched Team B. And it has been especially true ever since Ronald Reagan took power in 1981. All though this history progressives have been winning their own little wars. Desegregation, the Voting Rights Act, expanded rights for women, gay rights and recognition, the EPA, and other victories have come with the defeats. These victories were never Democratic victories, they were progressive victories. None of them would have been possible without significant Republican support. But we can no longer find progressives in the Republican Party to work with, so we must work on purifying the Democratic Party.

We already knew that. But first things first. We need to put out the fire, and it doesn't matter if we have some moral qualms about the rectitude of the people being consumed by the fire. When the problem is a nail, you use a hammer. After November 7th, the problem will no longer be a nail. And we will need to find a different tool to do the job.

The young monk wonders what we are doing sullying our principles by carrying people like Ford, Casey Jr., and Heath Schuler across the stream. The old monk says, I have already put them down, but you are still carrying them.

After November 7th, the netroots, at least people like Stoller, Bowers, and me, will not be carrying these people over the water. We will have moved on...to defeating them in their next primaries.


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Re: MyDD: Still Carrying the Load (3.00 / 1)

"people like Ford, Casey Jr., and Heath Schuler"

If Schuler and Ford win, its only because they are conservative Democrats. Casey, maybe that's one you have a point on.


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 11:59:34 AM EST

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Al Gore was a Senator from Tennessee and he didn't go out of his way to pass an anti-gay amendment to the constitution, nor did he wear his religion on his sleeve and claim Republicans don't love God. It is necessary for Ford to be moderate but it is necessary to be moderate in this way. If fact, he is not really running a moderate campaign at all. It's to the right of how Lamar Alexander or Fred Thompson ran. I'm not interested in critiquing Ford. But I want to make sure you understand where I am coming from.
Booman Tribune.
by BooMan on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:17:15 PM EST
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I wonder whether electing an African American would have a larger long-term impact than electing someone a bit more liberal.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 01:05:34 PM EST
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Nope.  Electing Doug Wilder Governor of Virginia was good but it didn't have the transormative effect a lot of people expected. If it did, Virginia would never have elected macaca Allen to be either Governor or US Senator.


by David Kowalski on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 05:22:08 PM EST
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Wilder, who is a prickly sort, alienated a lot of people when he was Gov so Macacca Allen in  some ways was a reaction to some of the public's unhappiness with the Wilder Governorship.  Allen also had a weak opponent which helped him in 1993.


by John Mills on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 05:43:39 PM EST
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Webb is the first really tough opponent Allen has had - Mary Sue Terry was a good number 2 type but a weak number 1 and Robb was badly damaged by the time 2000 rolled around and Allen didn't beat him by much.

Fascinating how poorly Allen is doing now that he is faced with a truly difficult race.


by John Mills on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 05:47:03 PM EST
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If Wilder hadnt broke down the door for state-wide minority candidates, the people of Virginia may not have been so comfortable voting for a Jewish candidate like Allen.  


John McCain loves war.
by Winston Smith on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 05:47:16 PM EST
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No chance. Virginians don't know Allen is Jewish and Allen himself won't own up to it.


by billybob on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 06:49:48 PM EST
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it was a joke.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 08:44:11 PM EST
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As I recall from paying a little bit of attention during those years, Wilder mostly didn't have that transformative effect because he didn't want to.  He ran from the opportunity.  Maybe Ford will as well, I don't have any idea, but I'm not willing to give up on the idea just because Doug Wilder of all people didn't reach for the stars.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 08:46:36 PM EST
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Al Gore was the second person ever to lose his own state in a Presidential election too- that might say something about TN politics?

And plus, do Republicans love God?


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:30:53 PM EST
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Excellent points.  Al Gore last won an election in Tennessee in his own right in 1990 which was 16 years ago.  Pre-1994, Tennessee sent 2 Dems to the Senate and a majority of its House members were Dems.  It is a very different electorate today.  Just look at its Congressional delegation.

While I may not like Ford's politics per se he is from the state and probably has a lot better idea of the acceptable politics than I do.  He will undoubtedly be better than Bob Corker which is really our only choice right now.


by John Mills on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 05:07:40 PM EST
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You are asking me to tell you whether Republicans love God? Please don't ask such questions. Loving God is not a political question and it has nothing to do with party affiliation...a point that is central to the entire progressive religious movement.
Booman Tribune.
by BooMan on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 06:24:18 PM EST
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The distinction he was making was between loving and fearing, and in that context it is a good question given their politicization of religion.


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 07:40:37 PM EST
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Al Gore was a Senator from Tennessee and he didn't go out of his way to pass an anti-gay amendment to the constitution

He did, however, vote for the Human Rights Amendment, the most rigid anti-abortion law ever proposed.

Al Gore also first ran for president as the "conservative alternative."

The man is a chameleon without scruples.  Hope Ford is too. :-)

Best,  Terry


by terryhallinan on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 05:51:04 PM EST
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Gore without scruples? (3.00 / 1)

Gore has been a bulwark of strength on global warming, energy and the environment. Give credit where it is due.


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 08:49:42 AM EST
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Don't forget Sen. Al Gore, Senior, who won a lot of elections in TN before the Nixon-Agnew hit squad defeated him in 1970.


by howardpark on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 12:23:56 AM EST
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When I moved to Tennessee, Gore and Sasser were my Senators. When I left, my Senators were Fred Thompson and Bill Frist.

Good enough reason to head to Australia, even setting the job offer to one side!

When I returned to the US (but not to TN), the Senators were Frist and Alexander.

People that don't like Ford can have another crack at getting someone they prefer to run in 2008, and try to have two Democratic Senators in the 111th Congress ... as long as Ford wins.

And if Ford wins, no matter what his faults, he'll be voting for a Democratic Senate majority in the 110th, 111th and 112th Congresses. We'll be stuck with Voinovich until 2011, so it'll be four more years before we have a crack at a pair of Democratic Senators.


*John Edwards* ... and the JE08 Supporters Blog
by BruceMcF on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 01:19:54 AM EST
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shuler


BlueNC - Progressive NC Politics
by Robert P on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:38:49 PM EST
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Why is it that Bowers and Stoller get criticized for making this an issue right before the election, but Tauscher does not?

It takes two to tango, and the bigger people that we all try to be would probably swallow hard for a few days, I understand that and don't disagree with it.  However, I have a problem with the prevailing attitude that somehow those within the party should only be viewed in the context of how they're reacted to.  Maybe the reaction from these two would have been better saved until after the election, but should that really overshadow Tauscher?


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 01:12:56 PM EST

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If I understand BooMan, he is giving sypathetic advice to colleagues engaged in the same struggle as him.  It is not so much critical of their rage, but simply saying the Tauschers of the party are going to do this shit, we just have to get on with winning and clearing out those elements of the party that won't get on board.

That's what I take from it, and to that I agree.  Winning is the best revenge, and we win not to punish the Tauschers, but to enact the progressive/liberal policies that help people.  That's what's really important here.


by scientician on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:03:57 PM EST
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That's fair, but I also think we can cut people a little bit of slack.  It's not completely off base to be pointing this out now so we're not blindsided by this battle after the election.  I don't think either Bowers or Stoller are planning on making a big stink beyond the one post each, but I think that collectively the netroots are better served having Tauscher and the New Democrats on their radar for after the election.  If people are really so concerned about not raising this issue until after the election, they should consider not writing diaries about it.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:10:37 PM EST
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Some people can walk and chew gum at the same time. Matt and Chris are working their butts off for this party of ingrates, and they are entitled to speak their mind on their own site when they please.    I don't know why Booman had to come to MyDD to "further" something he doesn't think should have been "furthered" in the first place.
Sorry, Booman - you are off target this time.    
Follow the money
by dkmich on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 05:40:31 AM EST
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You've got me confused here. Tauscher and Bowers and Stoller are all wrong? They are all right? Bowers and Stoller are right because Tauscher pushed first (did not! did so!)?

I like the take of Stirling Newberry on the TPM Cafe:

In short, for all of the bias, dissembling and carrying on from two of the New York Times' most biased and dishonest reporters - despite the bold language from conservative Democrats - the words here aren't fighting words - but the opening in a negotiation. And that opening isn't "we have a conservative agenda that we are going to move" but "we don't want to go too far to the left too fast, and we want national security and fiscal responsibility". Since the leaders of the progressive movement nationally - people like Howard Dean - are fiscal responsibility and national security hawks - this isn't really much of a demand. Is there any leading Democrat saying "we need less national security and bigger deficits?" Any where?

As the conservative Democrats put in their "ambit claim", what is the best negotiating position for progressive Democrats? Clearly, the largest possible majority. Even if it includes Heath Shuler ... there will be some issues for which you can sign up Shuler, and the bigger the Majority, the easier it becomes to play the game of conservative democratic musical chairs on important votes.

So it makes sense to save it until after the election, when we the size of the different chip stacks ... and for now, focus on getting as many chips over onto our table as possible.


*John Edwards* ... and the JE08 Supporters Blog
by BruceMcF on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 01:32:27 AM EST
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MyDD: Still Carrying the Load (none / 0)

well said.  We know this is a long fight.  Let's focus on this election now.  


by msobel on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:14:01 PM EST

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That's an interesting analogy, but the way I see it the problem is not what you guys are going to do. You have your head screwed on right (i.e., you can differentiate the means and ends and your ends remain honorable), you are committed to this project, and so on. To make my point about the more important problem with the younger monks, I am going to turn your analogy on its head: the problem is that you are carrying the load and you need a way to get the younger monks to stay involved, active and carry a bit of the load. The danger is that missing the huge cash advantage and other (read "religious") apparatus of the right, we have little to offer the younger monks... right-wing extremism of the type seen in the last 4-6 years is not something we can count on! (and needless to say not something to hope for, just to rally our base).


by ravi on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 05:22:40 PM EST

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Also Gore lost Tennessee in 2000, didn't he?

by ravi on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 05:23:43 PM EST

I Have Seen the Top of the Mountain... (none / 0)

The irony about this is that Tauscher was trying to suggest that the putative Democratic majorities will not be a socialist wet dream, turning the country back to potentially 1968. It's probably also the case that she was coddled by Rahm to say this because even if he were to beat out Pelosi for Speaker...many other liberals would control the powerful committees and make it very hard for Rahm to unilaterally enforce a Congress like our friend "Hot Tub" Tom.

But there's also another element here no one has mentioned...Tauscher is effectively warning the liberal base that there are still plenty of Republicans to work across the aisle with and develop a bi-partisan "muddle through" coalition. Missing is anyone saying the real obvious....what about Republican "defectors"?

Now that Tom DeLay is getting fitted for his jumpsuit the Democratic Leadership in either house will have tremendous power to get the disaffected Republicans previously too muffled by the DeLay-Cheney-Frist Axis of Money to sign up for a dizzying array of legislation. Even the most basic intiaitives like raising the minimum wage or reforming Medicare Part D likely will trigger plenty of interest from Republicans willing to cross the aisle to get fed.

As bloggers, Chris and Matt can slap around the Defenso-crats all they want. But Tauscher, Lieberman, Ford, Harman and other hawks are going to have a hell of time selling this war when maverick Republicans like Chuck Hagel start campaigning on the idea of the draft.


by risenmessiah on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 06:24:46 PM EST

oh who the hell cares? (3.00 / 1)

Chris and Matt vented.

Booman countervented.

Are we done now?


by Teaser on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 07:41:25 PM EST

No one is fooled (none / 0)

Get to work. Carry more water.


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 08:58:11 AM EST
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Superb post BooMan! You may find this relevant ... if you have not read it already. It is in the same vein.


by Freedom on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 09:26:49 PM EST

Shhhhhhhhhhh! (none / 0)

be berry berry qui-wet.


The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 10:48:33 PM EST

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Yeah this was laughed off at TPM Cafe.

There won't be enough DLC types to pull it off, the question will not be left or right, but how far left and how pragmatic.

At least, as long as we keep our people honest.


by MNPundit on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 12:53:41 AM EST


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